Programma 29/09

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Programma 29/09

Messaggioda percefal » 29 settembre 2009, 19:23

19.05: Freeroll - Satellite Bankroll Builder - Everest
21.00: SATELLITE ADP - EVEREST
21.30: € 0,50 - TonyGranata's Tournament - Pokerstars


Nei sit oggi sto prendendo legnate allucinanti, sembra quasi il fine settimana tanto si vedono donkate clamorose :roll:

Al Bankroll Builder di Everest siamo partiti in 3536, in questo momento sono 610/1240 con 1654 chips (media 2113).
Sto sperimentando anche stasera la tecnica dello Small Ball.
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda percefal » 29 settembre 2009, 20:26

AK contro JJ che setta al flop, e chiudo 226esimo.
Sono comuque soddisfatto della mia partita.
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda Bistecca » 29 settembre 2009, 20:39

Gj ;)

Speriamo di fare la prestazione stasera ;)
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda percefal » 29 settembre 2009, 21:02

Comincia il satellite ADP, siamo in 37, a premio in 5.
Bistecca è alla mia destra :?
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda percefal » 29 settembre 2009, 21:40

Il mio torneo dura 11 mani, uno small-ball giocato in maniera pessima.

Vediamole (in verde le mani che ho giocato):


***** Hand History for Game 5068937387 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:01:05 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1500.00 USD )
B1stecca posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
percefal posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ Qh Ks ]
** Dealing down cards **
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$10.00 USD]
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 5c, :As ]
percefal bets [$22.00 USD] Punto mezzo piatto per capire come sono messo
valent.rossi calls [$22.00 USD] Qui mi viene da pensare che la mano dell'oppo non è forte
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
percefal checks
valent.rossi checks
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
percefal bets [$49.00 USD] Qui sono certo di essere avanti, visto il check al turn
valent.rossi calls [$49.00 USD]
percefal shows [ Qh, Ks ]
valent.rossi doesn't show [ :Ad, 8d ]
percefal wins $187.00 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 5068949551 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:03:07 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1596.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1409.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
percefal posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
valent.rossi posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ 2h 3d ]
** Dealing down cards **
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$15.00 USD]
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 4d, :Ac ]
percefal bets [$22.00 USD] Come sopra, punto mezzo flop per capire come sono messo
valent.rossi raises [$44.00 USD]
percefal calls [$22.00 USD] Dal raise dell'oppo intuisco che ha una mano discreta, mi limito a chiamare
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
percefal checks
valent.rossi bets [$128.00 USD]
percefal folds Non miglioro con il turn, il pot diventa troppo grande
valent.rossi wins $128.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $128.00 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 5068955404 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:04:31 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1473.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
valent.rossi posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
DIO79 posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ Ks 4h ]
** Dealing down cards **
JanusSaaro calls [$10.00 USD]
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi calls [$5.00 USD]
DIO79 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 8h, Qs ]
valent.rossi checks
DIO79 bets [$30.00 USD]
JanusSaaro calls [$30.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro bets [$50.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$50.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro bets [$130.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$130.00 USD]
JanusSaaro shows [ Tc, :Ah ]
DIO79 doesn't show [ Qc, Jd ]
JanusSaaro wins $450.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068966271 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:07:02 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1463.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1280.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1730.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
DIO79 posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
JanusSaaro posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ 8d 3c ]
** Dealing down cards **
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$5.00 USD]
JanusSaaro checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 8h, Kd ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro checks
valent.rossi checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro checks
valent.rossi checks
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro bets [$30.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 calls [$30.00 USD]
JanusSaaro shows [ 2d, Ks ]
DIO79 doesn't show [ Jh, 3h ]
JanusSaaro wins $90.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068972307 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:08:24 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1453.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1240.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1780.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
JanusSaaro posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
Assotech posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ 5c 7d ]
** Dealing down cards **
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi raises [$35.00 USD]
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068976258 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:09:18 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1468.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1240.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
Assotech posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
meldimar posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ Qd 8c ]
** Dealing down cards **
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 calls [$10.00 USD]
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 calls [$10.00 USD]
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech calls [$5.00 USD]
meldimar raises [$70.00 USD]
g0G3t4 folds
DIO79 folds
Assotech folds
meldimar wins $70.00 USD
meldimar wins $40.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068980226 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:10:12 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1468.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1530.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
meldimar posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
Il_Piovra posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ 6h 9h ]
** Dealing down cards **
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi raises [$35.00 USD]
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068984423 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:11:08 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
Il_Piovra posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
g0G3t4 posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ 4s 4c ]
** Dealing down cards **
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra calls [$30.00 USD]
g0G3t4 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Qc, Jh ]
Il_Piovra checks
percefal bets [$49.00 USD] Debolezza dell'oppo
Il_Piovra folds
percefal wins $49.00 USD
percefal wins $100.00 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 5068988897 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:12:08 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1592.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1450.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1470.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
g0G3t4 posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
B1stecca posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ Td Jc ]
** Dealing down cards **
percefal raises [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra calls [$40.00 USD]
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ :Ac, 7h, 9d ]
B1stecca checks
percefal checks Ho un progetto di scala, siamo in quattro, probabilmente sbaglio a non fare la c-bet
Il_Piovra bets [$70.00 USD]
B1stecca folds
percefal calls [$70.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
percefal checks Mostro ancora una volta debolezza
Il_Piovra bets [$140.00 USD]
percefal calls [$140.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]
percefal bets [$222.00 USD]
Il_Piovra calls [$222.00 USD] Sono certo di essere dietro, chiamo solo per "comprare" una informazione sull'oppo
percefal shows [ Td, Jc ]
Il_Piovra shows [ 7d, :Ah ]
Il_Piovra wins $994.00 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 5068995265 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:13:35 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1120.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1972.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1460.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1455.00 USD )
B1stecca posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
percefal posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ 2h :Ad ]
** Dealing down cards **
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal wins $10.00 USD
percefal wins $20.00 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 5068997924 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:14:11 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1130.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1972.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1460.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1445.00 USD )
percefal posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
valent.rossi posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ Qd :Ah ]
** Dealing down cards **
DIO79 calls [$20.00 USD]
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$30.00 USD] La mano di partenza è ottima, ma lo small ball mi impone di tenere il piatto basso
valent.rossi calls [$20.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 6h, 4s ]
percefal bets [$120.00 USD] Mezzo pot per capire come sono messo
valent.rossi raises [$480.00 USD] Mi tribetta, penso ad un tris e foldo
DIO79 folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi wins $360.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $360.00 USD from main pot



***** Hand History for Game 5069002301 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:15:11 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $970.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1683.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1190.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1972.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1460.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1445.00 USD )
valent.rossi posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
DIO79 posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ 2d :Ac ]
** Dealing down cards **
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi calls [$30.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ :Ad, Td, 6s ]
valent.rossi checks
DIO79 bets [$40.00 USD]
percefal calls [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
DIO79 bets [$80.00 USD]
percefal calls [$80.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
DIO79 bets [$360.00 USD]
percefal raises [$810.00 USD] Errore grave. Vero è che non gli faccio AT in mano, altrettanto vero è che pot control significa evitare di fare giocare simili a meno di essere nuts
DIO79 calls [$450.00 USD]
percefal shows [ 2d, :Ac ]
DIO79 shows [ Tc, :As ]
DIO79 wins $1980.00 USD from main pot
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda wildshark » 29 settembre 2009, 21:49

:oh:
percefal checks Mostro ancora una volta debolezza
Il_Piovra bets [$140.00 USD]
percefal calls [$140.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
percefal bets [$222.00 USD]
Il_Piovra calls [$222.00 USD] Sono certo di essere dietro, chiamo solo per "comprare" una informazione sull'oppo
percefal shows [Td, ]
Il_Piovra shows [7d, Ah ]
Il_Piovra wins $994.00 USD from main pot
Foldi al turn... non hai le odds per chiamare....
FOLD AL RIVER !!!!!
Che vuoi comprare...? sapere con che punto ti avrebbe battuto ? anche J-hi andava bene...
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda Heldor » 29 settembre 2009, 21:57

mi sa che stai esagerando con lo SMALL BALL ;) é una tecnica da usare nei MTT deep stacke BB ogni 15-20 minuti e non 1500 chips e BB 10 min.
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda stev@nin » 29 settembre 2009, 22:01

beh... anch'io ne ho da studiare :mrgreen:

***** Hand History for Game 5069068448 ***** (Everest)
$3000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:30:21 ET 2009
Table 321139403 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 2: stev@anin ( $1150.00 USD )
Seat 3: Jack2005 ( $1185.00 USD )
Seat 4: -TheBanker-MI ( $1395.00 USD )
Seat 6: Victor_Word ( $3000.00 USD )
Seat 7: danyele23 ( $1835.00 USD )
Seat 8: Tremalnaik ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 9: mr.nano75 ( $1665.00 USD )
Seat 10: tonymen ( $1780.00 USD )
stev@anin posts small blind [$15.00 USD].
Jack2005 posts big blind [$30.00 USD].
Dealt to stev@anin [ Qd Qc ]
** Dealing down cards **
-TheBanker-MI folds
Victor_Word folds
danyele23 folds
Tremalnaik raises [$90.00 USD]
mr.nano75 folds
tonymen folds
stev@anin raises [$285.00 USD]
Jack2005 folds
Tremalnaik calls [$210.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 9d, 6s ]
stev@anin bets [$850.00 USD]
Tremalnaik calls [$850.00 USD]
stev@anin shows [ Qd, Qc ]
Tremalnaik shows [ 9h, 9c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
Tremalnaik wins $2330.00 USD from main pot
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda percefal » 29 settembre 2009, 22:11

wildshark ha scritto::oh:
percefal checks Mostro ancora una volta debolezza
Il_Piovra bets [$140.00 USD]
percefal calls [$140.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
percefal bets [$222.00 USD]
Il_Piovra calls [$222.00 USD] Sono certo di essere dietro, chiamo solo per "comprare" una informazione sull'oppo
percefal shows [Td, ]
Il_Piovra shows [7d, Ah ]
Il_Piovra wins $994.00 USD from main pot
Foldi al turn... non hai le odds per chiamare....
FOLD AL RIVER !!!!!
Che vuoi comprare...? sapere con che punto ti avrebbe battuto ? anche J-hi andava bene...
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Vorresti dirmi che quello è l'unico errore nell'applicazione della strategia?


@ Heldor: torna a studiare, a domanda chiara il prof ha risposto in modo molto chiaro, ed in forma scritta :gr8:
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Re: Programma 29/09

Messaggioda wildshark » 29 settembre 2009, 22:28

percefal ha scritto:Vorresti dirmi che quello è l'unico errore nell'applicazione della strategia?


@ Heldor: torna a studiare, a domanda chiara il prof ha risposto in modo molto chiaro, ed in forma scritta :gr8:


no quello è l'errore più grave, indipendentemente dalla strategia.
Lo small ball, comunque, non è una strategia globale... vacci cauto e non ti far prendere dall'entusiasmo, gioca come sai giocare :yes:
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