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[percefal]

19.05: Freeroll - Satellite Bankroll Builder - Everest
21.00: SATELLITE ADP - EVEREST
21.30: € 0,50 - TonyGranata's Tournament - Pokerstars


Nei sit oggi sto prendendo legnate allucinanti, sembra quasi il fine settimana tanto si vedono donkate clamorose

Al Bankroll Builder di Everest siamo partiti in 3536, in questo momento sono 610/1240 con 1654 chips (media 2113).
Sto sperimentando anche stasera la tecnica dello Small Ball.

[percefal]

AK contro JJ che setta al flop, e chiudo 226esimo.
Sono comuque soddisfatto della mia partita.

[Bistecca]

Gj

Speriamo di fare la prestazione stasera

[percefal]

Comincia il satellite ADP, siamo in 37, a premio in 5.
Bistecca è alla mia destra

[percefal]

Il mio torneo dura 11 mani, uno small-ball giocato in maniera pessima.

Vediamole (in verde le mani che ho giocato):


***** Hand History for Game 5068937387 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:01:05 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1500.00 USD )
B1stecca posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
percefal posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$10.00 USD]
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
percefal bets [$22.00 USD] Punto mezzo piatto per capire come sono messo
valent.rossi calls [$22.00 USD] Qui mi viene da pensare che la mano dell'oppo non è forte
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
percefal checks
valent.rossi checks
** Dealing River ** [ ]
percefal bets [$49.00 USD] Qui sono certo di essere avanti, visto il check al turn
valent.rossi calls [$49.00 USD]
percefal shows [ , ]
valent.rossi doesn't show [ , ]
percefal wins $187.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068949551 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:03:07 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1596.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1409.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
percefal posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
valent.rossi posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$15.00 USD]
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
percefal bets [$22.00 USD] Come sopra, punto mezzo flop per capire come sono messo
valent.rossi raises [$44.00 USD]
percefal calls [$22.00 USD] Dal raise dell'oppo intuisco che ha una mano discreta, mi limito a chiamare
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
percefal checks
valent.rossi bets [$128.00 USD]
percefal folds Non miglioro con il turn, il pot diventa troppo grande
valent.rossi wins $128.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $128.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068955404 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:04:31 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1473.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
valent.rossi posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
DIO79 posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
JanusSaaro calls [$10.00 USD]
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi calls [$5.00 USD]
DIO79 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
valent.rossi checks
DIO79 bets [$30.00 USD]
JanusSaaro calls [$30.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro bets [$50.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$50.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro bets [$130.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$130.00 USD]
JanusSaaro shows [ , ]
DIO79 doesn't show [ , ]
JanusSaaro wins $450.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068966271 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:07:02 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1463.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1280.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1730.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
DIO79 posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
JanusSaaro posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi calls [$10.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$5.00 USD]
JanusSaaro checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro checks
valent.rossi checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro checks
valent.rossi checks
** Dealing River ** [ ]
DIO79 checks
JanusSaaro bets [$30.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 calls [$30.00 USD]
JanusSaaro shows [ , ]
DIO79 doesn't show [ , ]
JanusSaaro wins $90.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068972307 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:08:24 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1453.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1240.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1780.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
JanusSaaro posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
Assotech posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi raises [$35.00 USD]
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068976258 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:09:18 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1468.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1240.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
Assotech posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
meldimar posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 calls [$10.00 USD]
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 calls [$10.00 USD]
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech calls [$5.00 USD]
meldimar raises [$70.00 USD]
g0G3t4 folds
DIO79 folds
Assotech folds
meldimar wins $70.00 USD
meldimar wins $40.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068980226 ***** (Everest)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:10:12 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1468.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1530.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1500.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
meldimar posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
Il_Piovra posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi raises [$35.00 USD]
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $25.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068984423 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:11:08 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1532.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
Il_Piovra posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
g0G3t4 posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra calls [$30.00 USD]
g0G3t4 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Il_Piovra checks
percefal bets [$49.00 USD] Debolezza dell'oppo
Il_Piovra folds
percefal wins $49.00 USD
percefal wins $100.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068988897 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:12:08 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1592.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1450.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1470.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1495.00 USD )
g0G3t4 posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
B1stecca posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
percefal raises [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra calls [$40.00 USD]
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
B1stecca checks
percefal checks Ho un progetto di scala, siamo in quattro, probabilmente sbaglio a non fare la c-bet
Il_Piovra bets [$70.00 USD]
B1stecca folds
percefal calls [$70.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
percefal checks Mostro ancora una volta debolezza
Il_Piovra bets [$140.00 USD]
percefal calls [$140.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
percefal bets [$222.00 USD]
Il_Piovra calls [$222.00 USD] Sono certo di essere dietro, chiamo solo per "comprare" una informazione sull'oppo
percefal shows [ , ]
Il_Piovra shows [ , ]
Il_Piovra wins $994.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068995265 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:13:35 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1120.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1972.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1460.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1455.00 USD )
B1stecca posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
percefal posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
valent.rossi folds
DIO79 folds
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal wins $10.00 USD
percefal wins $20.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5068997924 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:14:11 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $1130.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1483.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1230.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1972.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1460.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1445.00 USD )
percefal posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
valent.rossi posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
DIO79 calls [$20.00 USD]
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$30.00 USD] La mano di partenza è ottima, ma lo small ball mi impone di tenere il piatto basso
valent.rossi calls [$20.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
percefal bets [$120.00 USD] Mezzo pot per capire come sono messo
valent.rossi raises [$480.00 USD] Mi tribetta, penso ad un tris e foldo
DIO79 folds
percefal folds
valent.rossi wins $360.00 USD
valent.rossi wins $360.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 5069002301 ***** (Everest)
$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:15:11 ET 2009
Table 321139400 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: percefal ( $970.00 USD )
Seat 2: valent.rossi ( $1683.00 USD )
Seat 3: DIO79 ( $1190.00 USD )
Seat 4: JanusSaaro ( $1775.00 USD )
Seat 6: Assotech ( $1480.00 USD )
Seat 7: meldimar ( $1525.00 USD )
Seat 8: Il_Piovra ( $1972.00 USD )
Seat 9: g0G3t4 ( $1460.00 USD )
Seat 10: B1stecca ( $1445.00 USD )
valent.rossi posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
DIO79 posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
Dealt to percefal [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
JanusSaaro folds
Assotech folds
meldimar folds
Il_Piovra folds
g0G3t4 folds
B1stecca folds
percefal raises [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi calls [$30.00 USD]
DIO79 calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
valent.rossi checks
DIO79 bets [$40.00 USD]
percefal calls [$40.00 USD]
valent.rossi folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
DIO79 bets [$80.00 USD]
percefal calls [$80.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
DIO79 bets [$360.00 USD]
percefal raises [$810.00 USD] Errore grave. Vero è che non gli faccio AT in mano, altrettanto vero è che pot control significa evitare di fare giocare simili a meno di essere nuts
DIO79 calls [$450.00 USD]
percefal shows [ , ]
DIO79 shows [ , ]
DIO79 wins $1980.00 USD from main pot

[wildshark]

percefal checks Mostro ancora una volta debolezza
Il_Piovra bets [$140.00 USD]
percefal calls [$140.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
percefal bets [$222.00 USD]
Il_Piovra calls [$222.00 USD] Sono certo di essere dietro, chiamo solo per "comprare" una informazione sull'oppo
percefal shows [Td, ]
Il_Piovra shows [7d, Ah ]
Il_Piovra wins $994.00 USD from main pot
Foldi al turn... non hai le odds per chiamare....
FOLD AL RIVER !!!!!
Che vuoi comprare...? sapere con che punto ti avrebbe battuto ? anche J-hi andava bene...


Studia "Odds & Outs" di Lord ain edito dalla ADP productions...

[Heldor]

mi sa che stai esagerando con lo SMALL BALL é una tecnica da usare nei MTT deep stacke BB ogni 15-20 minuti e non 1500 chips e BB 10 min.

[stev@nin]

beh... anch'io ne ho da studiare

***** Hand History for Game 5069068448 ***** (Everest)
$3000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 29, 07:30:21 ET 2009
Table 321139403 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 2: stev@anin ( $1150.00 USD )
Seat 3: Jack2005 ( $1185.00 USD )
Seat 4: -TheBanker-MI ( $1395.00 USD )
Seat 6: Victor_Word ( $3000.00 USD )
Seat 7: danyele23 ( $1835.00 USD )
Seat 8: Tremalnaik ( $1490.00 USD )
Seat 9: mr.nano75 ( $1665.00 USD )
Seat 10: tonymen ( $1780.00 USD )
stev@anin posts small blind [$15.00 USD].
Jack2005 posts big blind [$30.00 USD].
Dealt to stev@anin [ ]
** Dealing down cards **
-TheBanker-MI folds
Victor_Word folds
danyele23 folds
Tremalnaik raises [$90.00 USD]
mr.nano75 folds
tonymen folds
stev@anin raises [$285.00 USD]
Jack2005 folds
Tremalnaik calls [$210.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
stev@anin bets [$850.00 USD]
Tremalnaik calls [$850.00 USD]
stev@anin shows [ , ]
Tremalnaik shows [ , ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Tremalnaik wins $2330.00 USD from main pot

[percefal]

:oh:
percefal checks Mostro ancora una volta debolezza
Il_Piovra bets [$140.00 USD]
percefal calls [$140.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
percefal bets [$222.00 USD]
Il_Piovra calls [$222.00 USD] Sono certo di essere dietro, chiamo solo per "comprare" una informazione sull'oppo
percefal shows [Td, ]
Il_Piovra shows [7d, Ah ]
Il_Piovra wins $994.00 USD from main pot
Foldi al turn... non hai le odds per chiamare....
FOLD AL RIVER !!!!!
Che vuoi comprare...? sapere con che punto ti avrebbe battuto ? anche J-hi andava bene...


Studia "Odds & Outs" di Lord ain edito dalla ADP productions...

Vorresti dirmi che quello è l'unico errore nell'applicazione della strategia?


@ Heldor: torna a studiare, a domanda chiara il prof ha risposto in modo molto chiaro, ed in forma scritta

[wildshark]

Vorresti dirmi che quello è l'unico errore nell'applicazione della strategia?


@ Heldor: torna a studiare, a domanda chiara il prof ha risposto in modo molto chiaro, ed in forma scritta

no quello è l'errore più grave, indipendentemente dalla strategia.
Lo small ball, comunque, non è una strategia globale... vacci cauto e non ti far prendere dall'entusiasmo, gioca come sai giocare
Aloha